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The #freelanceuk Twitter chat
Storified by Emma Cossey · Wed, Jan 02 2013 01:41:09
@dexdiva agree face to face not poss, but I used to have to come in at 5.30am and phone pitch to Oz law firm! #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@SamRSparrow just different industries, also when writing for international publications face to face not poss #freelanceukJo Gifford
RT @kaitewelsh: #freelanceuk One thing I’ve learnt – pitching articles really helped when it came to querying agents for my novel. Took the fear out of it!Freelance Lifestyle
Thanks everyone for joining in the #freelanceuk chat! Feel free to leave any useful pitch resource links on the hashtag.Freelance Lifestyle
#freelanceuk One thing I’ve learnt – pitching articles really helped when it came to querying agents for my novel. Took the fear out of it!Kaite
@Freelance_Life I keep a list of target publications (big and small) and a very vague ideas list.#freelanceukFreya Hardy
@SamRSparrow ah i see, and all prob have different approaches #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life I’d like to develop some branded prezzi/ppt slides, and a branded pitch doc for when I go more seriously #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@dexdiva for me I’m talking editorial, training and fundraising. I take freelance work in all 3 areas #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
So, who has an action plan in place for pitching? A pitch format doc? Pitch ideas? Some targets for 2013? #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
Just to check though are all taking editorial/ writing pitches? It’s different for presenting design work to a client #freelanceukJo Gifford
@kaitewelsh don’t be silly, you are going to rock it! #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@Freelance_Life I think I’ll always have a thing for print so that’s always my first instinct. #freelanceukFreya Hardy
Discovery: participating in the #freelanceuk pitching chat is actually making me more stressed about the pitch I’m writing.Kaite
@Freelance_Life my journalism course told me to pitch at the features or commissioning editor #FreelanceUKKathryn
@Freelance_Life no not at all it tends to pay better though #freelanceukJo Gifford
Do you think there’s a certain pressure to pitch to print? Especially if you create online content? Is it always necessary? #FreelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@kaitewelsh I was forced as part of a presentation skills course. I was then made to practise with my hands tied together! #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
If they are being read and not replied to something ain’t working #freelanceukJo Gifford
You can track if someone has read an email using right inbox or similar #freelanceukJo Gifford
Also, i am are editors don’t want to have phone calls all day #freelanceuk I have enough for my blogs even, emails are efficientJo Gifford
@kaitewelsh try filming yourself doing a pitch. It’ll be horrible to watch back, but will teach you loads! #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@learice if a story is good but you have already run one on Paris, say, an email pitch can be filed and come back to #freelanceukJo Gifford
@learice disagree, editors know me and my work and store a location story on file, travel writing is diff #freelanceukJo Gifford
RT @learice: I’d like to give the spam influx on the #freelanceuk chat special recognition for being relentless this eveningFreelance Lifestyle
@learice no it’s literally that diff locations are scheduled for later in the year #freelanceukJo Gifford
@dexdiva #freelanceuk decisions made quicker this way, less time wasted and opportunity to explore the perfect angle for a news story.Leanne Rice
@dexdiva #freelanceuk Which could be avoided with a phone call, non? Sorry to be devils advocate
I’m interested – My exp has seenLeanne Rice
@kaitewelsh @SamRSparrow @dexdiva @learice Maybe it’s what you feel comfortable with – I feel like I’m clearer on paper. #freelanceukEmma Cossey
#freelanceuk as a designer I dont pitch but as a writer I do, very diff industriesJo Gifford
Obvs not for tech or trend based content #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life yeah I think this would definitely help me get my foot in the door more. Getting an introduction if poss! #freelanceukFran Swaine
Also sometimes in travel writing a pitch is picked up months later #freelanceukJo Gifford
I’d like to give the spam influx on the #freelanceuk chat special recognition for being relentless this eveningLeanne Rice
@kaitewelsh @learice @samrsparrow @freelance_life thank you! Thought was talking to a void then!
#freelanceukJo Gifford
RT @dexdiva: @UrsulaGlitch @bangsandabun @freelance_life I usually send a bio, intro, first para and bullet pointed story #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@UrsulaGlitch @bangsandabun @freelance_life I usually send a bio, intro, first para and bullet pointed story #freelanceukJo Gifford
@SamRSparrow @freelance_life Agree! Great to cross check online database/directory listenings against social media profiles #freelanceukNatalie Baker
RT @dexdiva: @cateca @freelance_life i read a really good book on this which helped when i started called the freelance writers handbook #freelanceukOccasionalAssistants
@cateca @freelance_life pleasure, Igot commissioned straight away after reading it
#freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life Slightly late to the party but just reading through the chat now. #freelanceukNatalie Baker
@Freelance_Life research, news wires, gorkana #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life research research! Social media is great for this now, but company websites also help. Gorkana database too #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@learice @samrsparrow @freelance_life just my experience tho! #freelanceukJo Gifford
@learice @samrsparrow @freelance_life I disagree have written for big publishers from email pitches #freelanceukJo Gifford
@dexdiva @freelance_life @bangsandabun agree #freelanceukADBeauty
How do you find out the best person to pitch to? #FreelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@natalietrice @freelance_life ask some writer colleagues to send our example pitches that have worked recently maybe #freelanceukJo Gifford
@dexdiva @SamRSparrow @Freelance_Life For large companies and press though, phone is almost always best #freelanceukLeanne Rice
@SamRSparrow @Freelance_Life It takes quite some horribly awkward calls to learn slick pitching, but a great skill to pick up #freelanceukLeanne Rice
@Freelance_Life I think so too. I can’t wait to do my course as the pitching is holding me back and I think eds would laugh #FreelanceUKNatalie Trice
@natalietrice @hollieanneb you don’t always need it, honestly #freelanceukJo Gifford
@SamRSparrow @learice @freelance_life yes but emails areAlso really effective have had many commissions that way #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life I’ve gotten some terrific stuff via social media presence, but only b/c I can follow up with a good pitch. #freelanceukKaite
@AnishaDBeauty @freelance_life @bangsandabun but even if they haven’t and story is strong it can work #freelanceukJo Gifford
@HollieAnneB I am the other way, hate face to face or phone #FreelanceUKNatalie Trice
@Freelance_Life sorry not as vocal as usual – trying to cook at same time! #freelanceukFran Swaine
@learice @freelance_life agree with this entirely, particularly for editorial #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@Freelance_Life @bangsandabun def still relevant for editorial work. #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life @dexdiva @bangsandabun pitchings still relevant – if theyve heard of you/your brand before its always a plus #freelanceukADBeauty
@AnishaDBeauty @freelance_life that’s a good tip. Keep it light! #freelanceukcateca
@kaitewelsh @Freelance_Life No way at all! It really stops me hitting send sometimes #freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
@emma_cossey I hate that feeling of rejection! Is it better to call or email? #FreelanceUKNatalie Trice
@franswaine @freelance_life agree, depends on client and editors preference some take pitches on twitter! #freelanceukJo Gifford
@dexdiva @freelance_life thanks. I’ll definitely give it a read
#freelanceukcateca
#freelanceuk Practice pitching by phone & make yourself easy to warm to. If you can, it’s much easier to succeed by calling @Freelance_LifeLeanne Rice
RT @dexdiva: @cateca @freelance_life i read a really good book on this which helped when i started called the freelance writers handbook #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@Freelance_Life know your audience and do your research!! #freelanceukFran Swaine
@dexdiva @BangsandaBun Ah, is pitching still relevant? Or is it smarter to attract work from referrals/website/social media? #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@HollieAnneB exactly – totally agree #freelanceukADBeauty
@HollieAnneB @ursulaglitch true, but so many editors don’t have time for face to face so a well pitched email is good too #freelanceukJo Gifford
@franswaine I think I have the mind set of "Right, let’s wow your socks off and do something you don’t expect".#freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
@cateca @freelance_life i read a really good book on this which helped when i started called the freelance writers handbook #freelanceukJo Gifford
@AnishaDBeauty At least in person you can use tone of voice, gestures etc #freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
@UrsulaGlitch definitely!! #freelanceukFran Swaine
RT @AnishaDBeauty: @cateca @freelance_life i think keeping it conversational rather than too salesy is always key – know your customer #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@HollieAnneB yes me too actually. Once I’ve got that initial meeting I’m confident Ican deliver #freelanceukFran Swaine
@Freelance_Life yes, be well prepared and pitch right for the magazine/ site #freelanceuk and be bold! XJo Gifford
@cateca @freelance_life i think keeping it conversational rather than too salesy is always key – know your customer #freelanceukADBeauty
I try and get into the mindset of pitching on behalf of my freelance brand rather than myself. It feels less personal then. #freelanceukEmma Cossey
#freelanceuk the very first paid travel writing pieces I did were a cold pitch to an editor sometimes it just worksJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life definitely format – do you email or phone. I think each client should be treated uniquely and often in phases! #freelanceukFran Swaine
@UrsulaGlitch I think most people are like you. But god, the buzz I get from pitching face to face is the best feeling ever #freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
@HollieAnneB feel the same, i think with email and txt based promo its the way that your messages are being perceived #freelanceukADBeauty
@BangsandaBun @freelance_life I have found that pitching editorial takes a lot of time and energy. #freelanceukJo Gifford
@Freelance_Life as a newbie, I wouldn’t know where to start with pitching! What do you say? How? What’s ok & what’s not? #freelanceukcateca
Fear of rejection and format seem to be the biggest fears. Does anyone have any advice to help get over these fears? #FreelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@HollieAnneB I’m the other way around. I find email much less scary than face to face. Brave woman. #freelanceukFreya Hardy
RT @UrsulaGlitch: Nobody likes the thought of being rejected, but it’s such a buzz when someone says yes. I’m addicted, but I do want to improve. #FreelanceUKFreelance Lifestyle
RT @kaitewelsh: The #freelanceuk chat tonight is about pitching – just what I need when I’m having writer’s block with this one!he cavanagh
Nobody likes the thought of being rejected, but it’s such a buzz when someone says yes. I’m addicted, but I do want to improve. #FreelanceUKFreya Hardy
The #freelanceuk chat tonight is about pitching – just what I need when I’m having writer’s block with this one!Kaite
#freelanceuk It’s funny because I LOVE pitching face to face, I always feel confident and do well. It’s just over email etc where I’m scaredHollie-Anne Brooks
@Freelance_Life for me format is an issue – how to introduce myself in interesting way. I’m not good at bigging myself up. #freelanceukFreya Hardy
@Freelance_Life I think it is fear of rejection really – which is silly because they can only say no! #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@Freelance_Life For me I think it’s what to pitch & also I guess I wonder if anybody ever reads them #freelanceukBangs and a Bun
@Freelance_Life Hitting send, I think. I worry I’m going to be laughed at by the person receiving it #freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
A lot of people are nervous about pitching – what do you think is most intimidating? Format? Who to pitch to? Hitting send? #freelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
@Freelance_Life Not yet! But I will #freelanceukHollie-Anne Brooks
@Freelance_Life hello!! Ready and raring #freelanceukFran Swaine
RT @learice: Totally checking out @emma_cossey’s #freelanceuk chat while I wee. Don’t want to miss anything. I mean that in several ways…Samantha Sparrow
@Freelance_Life yes and even taking a course #FreelanceUKNatalie Trice
So, let’s kick things off – how many of you have added ‘send a pitch’ to your list of resolutions this year? #FreelanceukFreelance Lifestyle
Welcome to the second #Freelanceuk chat! This time, we’re talking about a topic a lot of you requested – pitching.Freelance Lifestyle
RT @Freelance_Life: 15 mins to go! Go grab yourself a cup of tea (and the last of those xmas chocolates. Resolutions start tomorrow, obviously) #freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
@SamRSparrow @emma_cossey I’ll second that
#freelanceukkerry
@emma_cossey everything?!
#freelanceukSamantha Sparrow
Excited about the #freelanceuk Twitter chat tonight at 6.30pm. It’s all about pitching, anything you’d like to know about it?Emma Cossey
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